Edward Winn should be fairly well documented. After all, he's a direct ancestor of President Grover Cleveland, so shouldn't we expect to know more about him than about the average guy who came to America? Well, we might expect it, and there is perhaps a little more information than we're used to finding, but the amount is still pretty minimal, and in some cases, conflicting.
For instance, was he born in in Ipswich, Suffolk, England in , or he was born in Thornton Curtis, Lincolnshire in. I would be happier if I could find an exact birth or christening date. I tend to think the Ipswich, Suffolk information could be a guess based on that being the point of his departure to Massachusetts, but at this point anything is possible.
He married Joanna, probably Joanna Sargent although I have seen it suggested that her name was Hatch) in England and they came to America with at least three of their children sometime before 1640. There seems to be at least a hint that the family spent some time (weeks? months? years?) in Charlestown when they arrived here, and in 1640 Edward was one of several men who were asked to plan the settlement of Woburn, Massachusetts. The family was there by 1641, and Edward was admitted a freeman there in 1643.
After that, there is little that is on record. The birth of his son Increase is recorded in 1641 as the first child born in Woburn. He is listed in a deponent's index, and I'd love to read that deposition for it might tell his age, where he was from, his current occupation, and his statement about the case he is testifying in. So far I haven't found the court records, though. His wife Joanna died in 1649 and Edward married Sarah Beal that same year. She also died, and he then married Anna or Hannah Page Wood, a widow. There are three references to land owned by Edward Winn in a book of early land deeds, but the land, whatever its size, is described only as a boundary for someone else's land. Also he was a town selectman from 1660-1664.
He died in Woburn on September 5, 1682, having helped to found a town and in one way or another, having seen it through the first 40 plus years of life. For that, he deserves to be honored.
The line of descent is:
Edward Winn-Joanna probably Sargent
Ann Winn-Moses Cleveland
Enoch Cleveland-Elizabeth Counts
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary or Mercy Perrin
Luceba Fay-Libbeus Stanard
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
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Friday, January 19, 2018
Holbrook line: Edward Counts or Counce 1635-1704
This will be a short post, because I've not found much about our ancestor Edward Counts, but his story should be told, however little we know of him. Well, we know that he was born about 1635 because in 1663 his wife Sarah Cleveland said in a court case that Edward was then about 28 years old. Unfortunately, that is all the information that I can glean from that court case, except that it was in Suffolk County, Massachusetts. There is another court case he is briefly mentioned in in 1673 but I can't make heads nor tails out of that. I think he was a witness.
So back to the beginning...We don't know who his parents are. Speculation is that his father might be Samuel because he named his only known son Samuel, but that is just speculation, as far as I can tell. I've not been able to find him on any immigration lists, so we don't know when he came to New England or where the ship's passengers might have been primarily from. The first thing we really know is that he married Sarah Adams, daughter of Richard Adams of Malden, on February 25, 1663.
Their first son, Samuel, was born in July of 1671. He and two daughters, Elizabeth and Sarah, were baptized together at the First Church in Charlestown on April 4, 1677.
I did find one comment that he had lived at Malden for some period of time but I don't know if that was while he was courting Sarah, or in the early days of their marriage, or perhaps it was in the last years of their marriage. Sarah died on September 27, 1674 in Malden, just a few days before her father, Richard Adams died on October 6, 1674. We don't know if the same illness struck them both down, or whether there were two unrelated causes of death. Sarah's mother, Mary Cheame, died in 1684, so she may have helped Edward with the raising of the three youngsters, approaching and in their early teens when Sarah died. Edward apparently did not remarry.
Edward died about February 14,1704 at Charlestown, where he had first lived and made his home. I haven't yet found his will, or appraisal. I don't know his occupation. I don't know his religion, except that he did have his children baptized. I DO know that more research needs to be done for him!
The line of descent is
Edward Counts-Sarah Adams
Elizabeth Counts-Enoch Cleveland
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary or Mercy Perrin
Luceba Fay-Libbeus Stanard
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
So back to the beginning...We don't know who his parents are. Speculation is that his father might be Samuel because he named his only known son Samuel, but that is just speculation, as far as I can tell. I've not been able to find him on any immigration lists, so we don't know when he came to New England or where the ship's passengers might have been primarily from. The first thing we really know is that he married Sarah Adams, daughter of Richard Adams of Malden, on February 25, 1663.
Their first son, Samuel, was born in July of 1671. He and two daughters, Elizabeth and Sarah, were baptized together at the First Church in Charlestown on April 4, 1677.
I did find one comment that he had lived at Malden for some period of time but I don't know if that was while he was courting Sarah, or in the early days of their marriage, or perhaps it was in the last years of their marriage. Sarah died on September 27, 1674 in Malden, just a few days before her father, Richard Adams died on October 6, 1674. We don't know if the same illness struck them both down, or whether there were two unrelated causes of death. Sarah's mother, Mary Cheame, died in 1684, so she may have helped Edward with the raising of the three youngsters, approaching and in their early teens when Sarah died. Edward apparently did not remarry.
Edward died about February 14,1704 at Charlestown, where he had first lived and made his home. I haven't yet found his will, or appraisal. I don't know his occupation. I don't know his religion, except that he did have his children baptized. I DO know that more research needs to be done for him!
The line of descent is
Edward Counts-Sarah Adams
Elizabeth Counts-Enoch Cleveland
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary or Mercy Perrin
Luceba Fay-Libbeus Stanard
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
Friday, July 21, 2017
Holbrook line: Moses Cleveland 1620-1703, Immigrant
There is more information about Moses Cleveland than is sometimes available,because he left more records than some immigrants, and because he is the ancestor of Grover Cleveland and thus has been pretty thoroughly researched. Still, I haven't seen documentation for his birth and there are varying guesses as to his parents.
My favorite candidate for his parents would be Isaac Cleveland and Alice, last name unknown. They were in Ipswich, Suffolk, England, which is generally given as Moses' birthplace, and they were of the right age to be his parents. In addition, there is the Biblical name tradition, as it appears. Other suggestions I have seen were for a Samuel Cleveland, but I don't think he was from Ipswich.
There is an absolutely fascinating story about Moses's voyage to America, but it may well be just that-a story. Still, on the off chance that it's correct, the story goes that when Moses came to America, he had thought it would be Virginia rather than New England. The story goes that when they landed at Jamestown, the group after a short time decided there was too much trouble with the native Americans, and boarded the ship to go to Massachusetts instead. There is much that is suspicious about this story but it could have happened.
At any rate, young Moses, no more than fifteen, arrived at Plym. outh or Boston in 1635. He was a ship's carpenter apprentice when he arrived, He seems to have stayed in Boston for about three years, then in 1638 he settled in Charlsetown.
He was still serving a master, probably Edward Winn, when he went to Woburn in 1640 or 1641, but was admitted a freeman in 1643, He was granted land in 1649, and on February 3,1648/1649 was appointed by a committee to lay out his own land. He married Ann Winn, daughter of Edward Winn, in 1648 and the couple had at least eleven children. The first is listed with a birthdate of 1651 so it's possible there were miscarriages or still born children in the early years of their marriage.
Moses was a joiner, or basically a finish carpenter, and worked both on ships and on homes. This gave him an income sufficient to support his large family. He is listed on the militia roll in 1663. A later listing for Moses Cleveland during King Philip's War is more likely his son Moses. He became a tithing man for the church in 1680, so he was a Puritan. He died in Woburn on January 8, 1702, having lived there for 60 or more years, and having survived his wife by about 20 years. It isn't often that our ancestors stayed in one place for a long time so I would like to thank Moses for doing just that!
The line of descent is:
Moses Cleveland-Ann Winn
Enoch Cleveland-Elizabeth Counts
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary or Mercy Perrin
Luceba or Euzebia Fay-Libbeus Stanard
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
My favorite candidate for his parents would be Isaac Cleveland and Alice, last name unknown. They were in Ipswich, Suffolk, England, which is generally given as Moses' birthplace, and they were of the right age to be his parents. In addition, there is the Biblical name tradition, as it appears. Other suggestions I have seen were for a Samuel Cleveland, but I don't think he was from Ipswich.
There is an absolutely fascinating story about Moses's voyage to America, but it may well be just that-a story. Still, on the off chance that it's correct, the story goes that when Moses came to America, he had thought it would be Virginia rather than New England. The story goes that when they landed at Jamestown, the group after a short time decided there was too much trouble with the native Americans, and boarded the ship to go to Massachusetts instead. There is much that is suspicious about this story but it could have happened.
At any rate, young Moses, no more than fifteen, arrived at Plym. outh or Boston in 1635. He was a ship's carpenter apprentice when he arrived, He seems to have stayed in Boston for about three years, then in 1638 he settled in Charlsetown.
He was still serving a master, probably Edward Winn, when he went to Woburn in 1640 or 1641, but was admitted a freeman in 1643, He was granted land in 1649, and on February 3,1648/1649 was appointed by a committee to lay out his own land. He married Ann Winn, daughter of Edward Winn, in 1648 and the couple had at least eleven children. The first is listed with a birthdate of 1651 so it's possible there were miscarriages or still born children in the early years of their marriage.
Moses was a joiner, or basically a finish carpenter, and worked both on ships and on homes. This gave him an income sufficient to support his large family. He is listed on the militia roll in 1663. A later listing for Moses Cleveland during King Philip's War is more likely his son Moses. He became a tithing man for the church in 1680, so he was a Puritan. He died in Woburn on January 8, 1702, having lived there for 60 or more years, and having survived his wife by about 20 years. It isn't often that our ancestors stayed in one place for a long time so I would like to thank Moses for doing just that!
The line of descent is:
Moses Cleveland-Ann Winn
Enoch Cleveland-Elizabeth Counts
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary or Mercy Perrin
Luceba or Euzebia Fay-Libbeus Stanard
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
Friday, August 12, 2016
Holbrook line: Richard Adams 1605-1674 Immigrant
Once again we have an immigrant ancestor about whom little is known. His like is fairly well documented in Massachusetts, but his earlier years, about 30 of them, are more of a mystery.
Richard was born about April 21,1605 in Batcombe, Somerset, England, or near there. Batcombe is and was a very small village (current population about 450), and the church that is there now, the Church of St Mary the Virgin, was there then, although the church has had a tower added since the early 1600s. The main industry of the area was raising sheep and weaving wool, so it's a pretty safe bet this is what our ancestors were doing when Richard was born, and as he grew to a young man.
At some point, the family developed Puritan leanings, and Richard and his family came to America in 1635. Richard apparently paid for the passage of himself, his wife, and one child, by coming as a servant to William Reade, of Batcombe, Somerset, England. They sailed on March 20, 1635 with Reverend Joseph Hull's group, most of whom went to Connecticut. Richard and his wife were in Weymouth, Massachusetts later that year, but it's hard to tell how long Richard retained his role as servant to Mr. Reade. We do know that he was admitted to a church early because he became a freeman at Weymouth on 2 September 1635. This is a possible indicator that he has some sort of status in the community, to be admitted that quickly, or that the church was eager for "live bodies" to enlarge the church.
The identity of his wives remains unknown. The best guess is that he married a Mrs. Cheame, and that either she already had a daughter named Mary Cheame, or they married their first daughter in honor of her first husband. However, nothing has been found in England to support this speculation, in either direction, so all we can really say is that Mary Cheame Adams travelled with her mother and either father or stepfather to America and then to Weymouth.
Once the family was in America, three more children were born. It appears that the first wife, Mary died after 1642, and that Richard remarried to Elizabeth, who died in 1656. He married again, by 1662, to another Elizabeth, and had a child with her. During his early years at Weymouth, he was on the grand jury, served as a deputy to the General Court for Weymouth, and served on a committee and as a commissioner for small causes. His occupation there is described as "planter", which generally means a land holder in good standing with the government and church, which were mostly one and the same thing. He is also described as being "semi-literate."
Richard asked to be relieved from further military training on June 19, 1665, stating that he was of the age of three score or thereabout, also being lame. I wonder whether it was an injury or an illness that caused the lameness? The next we hear from him is that he is in Malden, not Weymouth, and writing his will, which was dated March 21, 1673/74 and proved December 15, 1674. The land, which was left to his widow and his children, was valued at 78 pounds. The rest of his inventory is not totaled, and I have not yet located a copy of the will. However, it appears that he was not a wealthy man.
I'd like to know more about Richard Adams. Was he a servant to William Reade just for the ocean crossing, and if so, was there some family relationship? Was he a good and obedient Puritan all his ife? When did he move to Malden, and why? Where did he get his education, and did he have books in his inventory? There is always more to learn! Most of the information I have came from "The Great Migration" by Robert Charles Anderson, but I'd like more information, still.
The line of descent is:
Richard Adams-Mary
Sarah Adams-Edward Counts
Elizabeth Counts-Enoch Cleveland
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary/Mercy Perrin
Luceba Fay-Libbeus Stanard Jr.
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
Richard was born about April 21,1605 in Batcombe, Somerset, England, or near there. Batcombe is and was a very small village (current population about 450), and the church that is there now, the Church of St Mary the Virgin, was there then, although the church has had a tower added since the early 1600s. The main industry of the area was raising sheep and weaving wool, so it's a pretty safe bet this is what our ancestors were doing when Richard was born, and as he grew to a young man.
At some point, the family developed Puritan leanings, and Richard and his family came to America in 1635. Richard apparently paid for the passage of himself, his wife, and one child, by coming as a servant to William Reade, of Batcombe, Somerset, England. They sailed on March 20, 1635 with Reverend Joseph Hull's group, most of whom went to Connecticut. Richard and his wife were in Weymouth, Massachusetts later that year, but it's hard to tell how long Richard retained his role as servant to Mr. Reade. We do know that he was admitted to a church early because he became a freeman at Weymouth on 2 September 1635. This is a possible indicator that he has some sort of status in the community, to be admitted that quickly, or that the church was eager for "live bodies" to enlarge the church.
The identity of his wives remains unknown. The best guess is that he married a Mrs. Cheame, and that either she already had a daughter named Mary Cheame, or they married their first daughter in honor of her first husband. However, nothing has been found in England to support this speculation, in either direction, so all we can really say is that Mary Cheame Adams travelled with her mother and either father or stepfather to America and then to Weymouth.
Once the family was in America, three more children were born. It appears that the first wife, Mary died after 1642, and that Richard remarried to Elizabeth, who died in 1656. He married again, by 1662, to another Elizabeth, and had a child with her. During his early years at Weymouth, he was on the grand jury, served as a deputy to the General Court for Weymouth, and served on a committee and as a commissioner for small causes. His occupation there is described as "planter", which generally means a land holder in good standing with the government and church, which were mostly one and the same thing. He is also described as being "semi-literate."
Richard asked to be relieved from further military training on June 19, 1665, stating that he was of the age of three score or thereabout, also being lame. I wonder whether it was an injury or an illness that caused the lameness? The next we hear from him is that he is in Malden, not Weymouth, and writing his will, which was dated March 21, 1673/74 and proved December 15, 1674. The land, which was left to his widow and his children, was valued at 78 pounds. The rest of his inventory is not totaled, and I have not yet located a copy of the will. However, it appears that he was not a wealthy man.
I'd like to know more about Richard Adams. Was he a servant to William Reade just for the ocean crossing, and if so, was there some family relationship? Was he a good and obedient Puritan all his ife? When did he move to Malden, and why? Where did he get his education, and did he have books in his inventory? There is always more to learn! Most of the information I have came from "The Great Migration" by Robert Charles Anderson, but I'd like more information, still.
The line of descent is:
Richard Adams-Mary
Sarah Adams-Edward Counts
Elizabeth Counts-Enoch Cleveland
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mary/Mercy Perrin
Luceba Fay-Libbeus Stanard Jr.
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Gladys Holbrook-Richard Allen
Their descendants
Friday, August 15, 2014
Holbrook line: Enoch Cleveland 1671-1729
Enoch Cleveland was of the first generation of New Englanders. His father Moses Cleveland, had arrived probably at Boston in 1635, as a servant to his future father-in-law, Edward Winn. Ann was just a young woman at the time, and perhaps Moses had to serve a period of indentureship, for Moses and Mary weren't married until 1648. Enoch was the youngest son of this couple, one of 12 children, and the family lived in Woburn, Massachusetts.
Enoch married Elizabeth Counts or Counce on October 9, 1695 in Charlestown, Massachusetts, which was just outside of Charlestown and in fact may have been included in the Charlestown borders at one time. Elizabeth was the daughter of Edward Counts/Counce and Sarah Adams, and was one of at least five children.
Enoch learned and practiced the trade of a tailor, so if he farmed it was only to support his family. Likely he had a few farm animals, if nothing else. He and Elizabeth moved several times, from Charlestown to Sudbury to Framingham, then Acton, Marlborough, and finally Concord, in 1719. His first wife died in 1719 and he may have married again, to Elizabeth Wright. There are no known children from the second marriage, and just four children from the first marriage. Sarah was the oldest, and then came Enoch, James, and Jonathan. It is hard to tell whether Enoch moved so much because of hard times, or because his trade was so much in demand.
Enoch has what looks to be an interesting probate record, case number 4616 in the probate court of Middlesex County, and perhaps more can be learned from that. The images are available on americanancestors.org but I can't read them, and I haven't been able to find anyone who has posted the will or papers on line. Apparently FamilySearch will be bringing the images online "soon", as there is a research page about the collection. Maybe I'll have better luck reading them there.
Update: I tried again to read the probate, and have been able to glean a little bit. Enoch died without a will, and his son Jonathan Cleveland was the administrator. There is a document with Israel Joslin's signature on it. There were several pages with numbers and lists. At the end is what I think is an inventory. I will have to wait for better glasses or/and a stronger magnifying glass to read more!
As far as I can tell, Enoch didn't have an involvement with the military, or at least it was only for local drills. There is an Enoch Cleveland who served for about 7 1/2 months in 1725, as a corporal, but this is likely son Enoch, not our ancestor.
More research needs to be done, of course, not only to study his probate records but to determine whether he was a freeman or not, and to find what churches he would have supported. I'd also like to know whether he was a hard-luck kind of guy or a respected citizen with a needed trade. Someday perhaps I will find answers to these questions.
The line of descent is:
Enoch Cleveland-Elizabeth Counts
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mercy Perrin
Euzebia Fay-Libbeus Stanard Jr.
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Holbrook children, grand children, great grandchildren, and great great grandchildren
Enoch married Elizabeth Counts or Counce on October 9, 1695 in Charlestown, Massachusetts, which was just outside of Charlestown and in fact may have been included in the Charlestown borders at one time. Elizabeth was the daughter of Edward Counts/Counce and Sarah Adams, and was one of at least five children.
Enoch learned and practiced the trade of a tailor, so if he farmed it was only to support his family. Likely he had a few farm animals, if nothing else. He and Elizabeth moved several times, from Charlestown to Sudbury to Framingham, then Acton, Marlborough, and finally Concord, in 1719. His first wife died in 1719 and he may have married again, to Elizabeth Wright. There are no known children from the second marriage, and just four children from the first marriage. Sarah was the oldest, and then came Enoch, James, and Jonathan. It is hard to tell whether Enoch moved so much because of hard times, or because his trade was so much in demand.
Enoch has what looks to be an interesting probate record, case number 4616 in the probate court of Middlesex County, and perhaps more can be learned from that. The images are available on americanancestors.org but I can't read them, and I haven't been able to find anyone who has posted the will or papers on line. Apparently FamilySearch will be bringing the images online "soon", as there is a research page about the collection. Maybe I'll have better luck reading them there.
Update: I tried again to read the probate, and have been able to glean a little bit. Enoch died without a will, and his son Jonathan Cleveland was the administrator. There is a document with Israel Joslin's signature on it. There were several pages with numbers and lists. At the end is what I think is an inventory. I will have to wait for better glasses or/and a stronger magnifying glass to read more!
As far as I can tell, Enoch didn't have an involvement with the military, or at least it was only for local drills. There is an Enoch Cleveland who served for about 7 1/2 months in 1725, as a corporal, but this is likely son Enoch, not our ancestor.
More research needs to be done, of course, not only to study his probate records but to determine whether he was a freeman or not, and to find what churches he would have supported. I'd also like to know whether he was a hard-luck kind of guy or a respected citizen with a needed trade. Someday perhaps I will find answers to these questions.
The line of descent is:
Enoch Cleveland-Elizabeth Counts
Sarah Cleveland-Israel Joslin
Sarah Joslin-Edward Fay
David Fay-Mercy Perrin
Euzebia Fay-Libbeus Stanard Jr.
Hiram Stanard-Susan Eddy
Louis Stanard-Mary Alice Hetrick
Etta Stanard-Loren Holbrook
Holbrook children, grand children, great grandchildren, and great great grandchildren
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